Bill Bitner sits down to chat with four VMers who are legends in the community: Mark Cathcart, Gabe Goldberg, Chuck Morse, and Romney White. All four are companions in the Knights of VM and have played significant roles in the history. If we imagined a dystopian world without them, VM would be very different. Few people would know about the product, even those that knew of the product probably could not use it, and the product line would have stopped at VM/ESA if not earlier. Join Bill for this fun and insightful discussion.